Folami
interviews
Chaye
Wise
about
her
Wise
Eating
advice
column.
Chaye
and
I
first
met
in
a
birthing
class
in
1986.
I
have
watched
her
grow
into
a
healthy
lifestyle
guru
operating
her
business
Wise
Eating.
How
lucky
for
her
she
married
Moshe
Wise!
J.
She
offers
cooking
classes,
food
buying
co-ops,
personal
catering
in
homes,
and
healthy
eating
seminars
and
lifestyle
change
consultations.
She
is
also
a
nationally
certified
massage
therapist.
She
is
the
proud
mother
of
four
beautiful
children,
ages
18
months,
12,
15
and
18.
FOLAMI:
What
is
wise
eating?
CHAYE:
Wise
eating
is
a
concept
that
is
not
just
about
food
that
you
eat.
It’s
about
recognizing
that
everything
we
take
in
affects
who
we
are;
the
food,
the
fluids,
the
air
we
breathe,
the
interactions
and
relationships,
the
music
and
the
media
–
all
make
up
who
we
are.
FOLAMI:
Isn’t
that
funny?
On
my
CD
I
have
a
quote
of
my
own.
“We
are
what
we
sing.”
So
you
know
where
I
got
that
from…
CHAYE:
It’s
an
understanding
that
wise
eating
is
wise.
Looking
at
the
wisdom
of
the
elders,
of
our
experiences
and
life
in
general
to
determine
what
we
are
going
to
take
in,
looking
at
the
need
for
clean
air
and
pure
water.
As
simple
as
it
sounds,
natural
foods
are
not
the
norm.
Everything
is
over-processed
and
full
of
preservatives
and
additives
that
are
harmful
to
our
bodies;
in
more
than
just
physical
ways.
They
affect
our
emotions
and
our
spirit.
We
need
to
make
informed
decisions
about
what
we
are
going
to
take
in.
FOLAMI:
Do
you
think
that
any
of
the
trends
we
are
seeing
in
today’s
children
such
as
the
so-called
hyperactive
child,
or
the
growing
number
of
pre-teens
with
women’s
bodies.
Does
any
of
that
relate
back
to
the
foods
we
eat?
CHAYE:
Absolutely!
The
over-activity
that
we
see
in
children
often
stems
from
sugar
content
in
the
body
which
can
be
something
that
could
have
started
in
their
systems
before
they
were
actually
born,
having
started
while
in
the
womb.
Wise
eating
includes
expectant
moms
considering
what
they
eat.
As
far
as
the
growing
number
of
well-developed
pre-teens
girls,
there
is
scientific
proof
that
the
hormones
that
they
put
in
poultry
go
into
our
systems
as
we
eat
the
poultry.
So
the
same
hormone
that
makes
the
chicken
breast
plump
is
having
the
same
effect
on
our
daughters.
FOLAMI:
Well,
I
want
to
ask
you
about
Ritalin
as
a
solution
but
we’ll
give
you
an
entire
column
to
address
such
an
important
issue.
Cool?
CHAYE:
Yes.
FOLAMI:
Well,
let’s
face
it.
Even
I
have
slipped,
Chaye.
When
you
met
me
20
years
ago,
I
was
a
strict
vegetarian,
committed
to
avoiding
fast
food
and
even
baked
my
own
bread.
Those
days
are
OVER.
I
have
found
that
my
active
lifestyle
has
led
me
to
take
advantage
of
quick
meals,
non-veggie
meals,
sugary
cereals
and
(okay,
I’m
admitting
it
to
the
world)
fast
food.
So
how
can
you
help
people
like
me
who
want
to
do
better
but
associate
wise
eating
with
5
hours
in
the
kitchen?
CHAYE:
Whole
Foods
and
that
whole
industry
have
made
it
easier
now,
because
so
many
people
like
you
(and
me)
when
we
had
small
children,
we
had
more
time
in
the
kitchen,
but
as
our
children
have
grown
older,
we
are
drawn
out
of
the
kitchen.
There
is
not
enough
time
and
we
need
help
with
the
details
of
preparation
of
healthy
meals.
And
so
numerous
time
saving
gadgets
have
been
created
that
still
allow
foods
to
stay
in
the
healthy
realm
without
compromising
the
quality
as
well
as
pre-packaged
foods
that,
again,
still
allow
a
family
to
eat
healthy
natural
foods
with
a
fraction
of
the
time
being
spent
in
preparation.
The
demand
is
growing
because
of
people
like
us.
The
reality
is
it
does
take
time
to
eat
healthy.
It
does
take
time
to
prepare.
However,
planning
takes
time
(doing
a
menu,
scheduling
in
a
combined
effort
and
doing
the
work)
Utilizing
some
of
these
time-saving
ingredients
and
tools
can
cut
the
time
and
make
the
time
spent
well
worth
it
for
everyone
involved.
It
would
be
hard
of
I
had
to
do
all
5
of
those
hours
by
myself
like
I
did
when
they
were
babies.
Now
that
they’re
older,
they
spend
that
time
with
me
in
the
kitchen
and
what
took
5
hours
takes
2
hours
and
we
spend
quality
time
together.
FOLAMI:
Let’s
start
small.
Give
us
3
gadgets
and
one
semi-prepared
healthy
meal
for
our
21st
century
kitchens.
CHAYE:
A
salad
spinner.
FOLAMI:
Any
objections
to
bagged
salad?
CHAYE:
Yes,
some.
But
no,
not
in
general.
One
of
the
keys
to
Wise
Eating
is
reading
labels.
If
it’s
just
bagged
salad
with
no
preservatives
added,
that’s
fine.
But
if
your
pocketbook
won’t
allow
you
to
do
the
bagged
salad,
which
tend
to
be
pricey,
then
a
head
of
romaine
lettuce,
a
carrot
and
a
piece
of
red
cabbage
can
last
a
few
days
longer
than
that
pre-packaged.
Of
course
we
have
our
food
processors
and
blenders,
and
as
they
have
improved
there
is
less
of
a
clean-up
issue.
FOLAMI:
Forgive
me
for
laughing.
But
I
just
left
my
kitchen
and
out
of
the
corner
of
my
eyes,
I
saw
“pieces”
of
a
food
processor.
Do
the
newer
models
have
fewer
pieces?
CHAYE:
Unfortunately,
I
don’t
know
cause
mine
are
pretty
old.
I
chose
to
buy
the
ones
that
are
more
expensive
that
last
forever
and
they
are
lasting
forever.
FOLAMI:
Give
us
one
more
gadget.
CHAYE:
The
old-fashioned
apple
core
potato
peeler,
which
is
great
for
peeling
all
of
your
vegetables
quickly
and
it’s
a
tool
the
children
can
safely
learn
to
use
at
a
young
age.
FOLAMI:
Good
idea!
Y’know
that
reminds
of
an
incident
that
sticks
in
my
head.
I
had
a
22-yeard
old
visiting
a
few
years
ago
and
was
making
a
salad
and
she
did
not
know
how
to
peel
a
carrot.
I
shared
that
story
with
a
friend
who
told
me
her
own
daughter
thought
cabbage
was
lettuce.
And
explained
it
away
by
saying,
“Hey
we
buy
our
salads
in
bags.”
(laughter)
CHAYE:
Ha!
That
reminds
me
of
a
time
I
was
working
with
children
in
an
inner-city
school
and
asked
them
where
oranges,
grapes
and
apples
come
form.
And
one
of
them
raised
a
hand
and
shouted
“Out
the
local
grocery
store!”
Seriously.
Our
lives
are
so
busy
now
that
some
of
the
basic
simple
things
that
we
take
for
granted
are
slipping
through
the
cracks
as
far
as
educating
our
children
about
our
food
supply.
Too
much
is
being
left
to
the
mainstream
media
which
is
often
guided
by
a
different
set
of
priorities.
FOLAMI:
Just
last
night
my
7-year
old
son
Kofi
was
surprised
that
an
avocado
had
a
seed.
It
made
me
realize
I
had
not
involved
him
in
the
prep
of
an
avocado.
But
he
went
on
to
ask
about
the
seed
thing
and
I
informed
him
that
everything
that
grows
from
the
earth
has
seeds
and
he
tried
to
challenge
me
by
naming
beans.
I
told
him
beans
are
seeds
that
we
can
eat.
Right?
CHAYE:
Yes.
They
are
the
seed
of
the
vegetable.
Lentils,
black
bean,etc.
There
is
a
plant
or
leaf
that
those
beans
come
from.
FOLAMI:
See?
I’m
already
more
in
the
know.
How
about
a
convenient
food
or
quick
healthy
meal?
CHAYE:
Can
I
name
brands?
FOLAMI:
Name
‘em
now
and
we
hope
they’ll
sponsor
later
(laughter).
CHAYE:
Fantastic
Foods
has
done
a
fantastic
job
in
bringing
a
large
extensive
line
that
includes
some
of
our
favorite
and
otherwise
difficult
and
vegetarian
recipes.
Nicely
seasoned
and
conveniently
packaged,
many
of
which
you
just
have
to
add
water.
FOLAMI:
What
is
your
children’s
favorite
dish
they
make?
CHAYE:
My
son,
Yosef,
the
cook
in
the
house,
future
culinary
artist
loves
to
make
Cheesy
Bean
Burritos.
And
they
were
pleasantly
surprised
when
someone
gave
me
a
box
of
Fantastic
Foods
instant
refried
beans.
And
how
good
they
tasted!
FOLAMI:
Oh,
yeah.
We’ve
eaten
that.
CHAYE;
Normally,
burritos
have
to
be
made
after
I’ve
cooked
a
pot
of
beans
(red
or
black
or
kidney)
and
we
use
the
leftovers
for
the
burritos.
FOLAMI:
Do
you
refry
them?
CHAYE:
Sometimes.
But
under
normal
circumstance
they
have
to
wait
to
have
one
of
their
favorite
dishes
until
after
I’ve
prepared
beans.
Fantastic
Foods
as
well
as
other
brands
has
made
it
possible
for
Yosef
to
prepare
burritos
in
about
20
minutes
at
any
time.
FOLAMI:
Y’know,
everyone
in
my
family
has
a
day
to
cook
in
my
house.
But
my
13-year
old
sometimes
has
such
a
funky
attitude
about
it
that
I
don’t
want
to
eat
the
food
of
someone
who
prepares
it
under
duress.
And
my
17-yr
old
gets
home
from
football
practice
at
8.
So
it’s
really
me
and
John
and
we
do
find
it
important
to
bring
home
take-out
often
just
to
stay
on
top
of
HW
and
try
to
have
some
quality
time
on
the
weekdays.
Any
take-out
suggestions?
CHAYE:
Just
find
somewhere
that
you
trust.
FOLAMI:
Who
do
you
trust?
CHAYE:
I
found
some
conscious
Asian
(Chinese,
Thai).
FOLAMI:
Yeah,
we
eat
a
lot
of
Thai.
I
love
thatred
curry
and
Coconut
Soup.
But
the
last
time
I
bright
home
Thai
and
realized
I’d
spent
$40
for
dinner,
I
knew
that
needed
to
become
a
treat.
CHAYE:
We
have
a
favorite
Thai
restaurant
in
the
DC
area
but
it
is
definitely
for
special
occasions.
I
do
most
of
our
Thai
favorites
at
home
now
and
very
inexpensively
I
can
say.
FOLAMI:
What
do
you
think
will
keep
the
Wise
Eating
column
reader
coming
back
to
the
site
for
more?
CHAYE:
An
honest
desire
for
alternatives,
which
is
what
Wise
Eating
is
all
about.
Informing
our
audience
about
the
alternatives
to
the
traditional
ingredients
and
recipes
that
have
been
handed
down
from
generation
to
generation.
Unfortunately,
a
lot
of
those
ingredients
and
recipes
are
what
are
making
us
sick.
Wise
Eating’s
commitment
is
to
showing
there
are
other
options
whereby
you
can
have
delicious
and
fun
food
that’s
good
for
you,
too.
FOLAMI:
How
can
your
readers
communicate
with
you?
CHAYE:
Join
me
in
my
kitchen
to
cook
dinner
any
night.
J
But
for
obvious
reasons,
I
can
also
be
e-mailed
at
at
wiseeating@homemadejamz.com.
I’m
excited
and
look
forward
to
hearing
the
concerns
that
we’re
facing
today
and
I’m
eager
to
offer
as
many
answers
as
I
can.
Contact
CHAYE
at
wiseeating@homemadejamz.com
with
your
wise
eating
questions.
Let’s
be
wise
when
we
eat!